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    <title>Royal Engineers - Family History &amp; Genealogy Message Board</title>
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    <pubDate>2013-04-27 03:42:13Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Royal Engineers Service Record 1940</title>
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      <description>I seek proof that I served with 229 Field Coy. royal Engineers in Arctic Norway</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-28 19:12:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Royal Engineers Service records</title>
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      <description>I'm not referring to LOCAL civil registration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FMP has the index of BRITISH civil registration of Army (and RE) births overseas.  Have checked their index?  I think it's free.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A birth or marriage event could have been registered in BOTH local government and British registration systems.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not sure about the islands.  My ancestor's Bermuda birth was registered thru the BRITISH registration system.  I've never tried to find the Bermuda civil reg.  I did find the Bermuda baptism.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-23 14:09:39Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Royal Engineers Service records</title>
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      <description>Unless of course those birth records are on a pacific island where registration of births, deaths and marriages didn't exist in the 18th Century (is that the time period for 1800's?) like Fiji or if there are records becareful of the fact that they maybe unattainable to apply for like Fiji or wallis island for eg.  or even Samoa unless you know someone there to apply for you...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's my dilemma at present...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-23 11:32:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Royal Engineers Service records</title>
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      <description>One other possibility, as suggested by Paula-Ann's note: using birth records for children.  If you know that the RE's child(ren) was born overseas, the birth was PROBABLY registered.  FMP has the index of Army Births Overseas (ditto marriages).  If you find the birth, then you submit a request for the cert to GRO, just like any other registered birth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You'll get the baby's &amp;amp; parents' names (usually with mom's maiden name), dad's rank, and probably baptism &amp;amp; Commanding Officer info.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But remember, not all places were considered "foreign."  I have an unregistered birth in Ireland...it wasn't considered "overseas" at that time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And if you do research at Kew, knowing time points of residency may be beneficial.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-23 04:12:28Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Royal Engineers Service records</title>
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      <description>I'm presuming I have found my gg grandfather - Wilfred Stephens in 1871 at the Royal Engineers college in Gillingham,Kent thanks to the census of that time then later again upon the steamship Whampoa heading to Fiji where the 6th company of Royal Engineers headed in 1875.  He was part of the initial team to survey the new capital of Fiji with his name being mentioned in Wikipedia along with two high ranking Officers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He settles in Fiji marrying and having 3 children by 1883.  I found the only discharge for a Wilfred Stephens in 1879 Chelsea and quite sure this is my Wilfred Stephens as he only served for 9 years making the timing of him at the colledge in 1871 correct with this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is verbally commented that he served as an RE in Ceylon India but I'm having trouble finding any records of enrolment for him in this area.  I have contacted the British Library and they could not find any records whatsoever of a Wilfred Stephens...it was suggested I try the National Archives in Kew...as apparently they hold the records for the RE's there as it has already been mentioned.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paula</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-22 03:45:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Royal Engineers Service records</title>
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      <description>Hi, Rod -&lt;br&gt;What I have learned (can't guarantee it's all correct!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* if your ancestor served his full 21 years, then he was eligible for pension, and there's a good chance his pension papers are on FindMyPast.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* if he didn't serve a full 21 years, there MIGHT be discharge papers on FMP (but probably not).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* there are Muster books at Kew, in which he may appear.  REs generally moved as needed between companies.  They won't give much info, except: location, rank, pay.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Musters are not currently online (rumor that they may be someday) and you would need to go and do the research, or pay a researcher.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;good luck.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-19 14:38:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Royal Engineers Service records</title>
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      <description>My great-grandfather, Henry Clark (b.~1830-d,1884),was Clerk of Works in the Royal Engineers, at Birmingham ~1870-76.&lt;br&gt;He appears to have been in Ireland in August, 1878, as that's&lt;br&gt;where my great-uncle was born.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any details of his record of service in the RE would be&lt;br&gt;greatly appreciated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rod Clark (&lt;a href="mailto://roc@psyche.id.au"&gt;roc@psyche.id.au&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-19 05:18:27Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: 60  Special  Company  ,Royal  Engineers    Italy   1942 -1946                     re</title>
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      <description>If you are next of kin, child or grandchild, you can apply for his Service Record from &lt;br&gt;Army Personnel Centre (Disclosures)&lt;br&gt;Mail Point 535&lt;br&gt;Kentigem House&lt;br&gt;65 Brown Street&lt;br&gt;Glasgow G2 8EX&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phone; 01412 248034&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Costs about £30 and be prepared to wait up to a couple of months.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-04 08:36:38Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: 60  Special  Company  ,Royal  Engineers    Italy   1942 -1946                     re</title>
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      <description>Hi thank you for your reply, I  tried  them  a couple of years ago,, but they couldnt  help, despite me quoting my fathers  war Service number, as per his book .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;john                                   </description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-04 05:37:14Z</pubDate>
      <author>johnwells1954</author>
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      <title>Re: 60  Special  Company  ,Royal  Engineers    Italy   1942 -1946                     re</title>
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      <description>The Royal Engineers have a museum and library at Gillingham (google). Even if they cannot give you the exact details you want they could probably give general information about these groups and could possibly point you to further information. Would not cost much to ask!</description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-03 23:24:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Henry CHRISTIAN service record, 5th Company Royal Engineers</title>
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      <description>Thanks Mick, I'll have a look at that.&lt;br&gt;Jeff</description>
      <pubDate>2013-03-13 08:55:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Henry CHRISTIAN service record, 5th Company Royal Engineers</title>
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      <description>He has a set of records on the "Find My Past" website - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;British Army Service Records 1760-1915.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Henry Christian, born 1852, Rathdrum, Co Wicklow, Ireland.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to buy some credits to see them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mick.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-03-13 06:39:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>William GLOVER,  joined the Royal Engineers  in 1913</title>
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      <description>I am trying to trace any information on my Grandfather's brother. He was William Glover, born Tralee 13 July 1890. He joined the RE with my Grandad Bart in Tralee in 1913. I know that he survived the war and apparently settled in Dagenham. Any ideas on where I might find out about him would be much appreciated</description>
      <pubDate>2013-03-09 13:53:01Z</pubDate>
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      <title>60  Special  Company, Royal  Engineers,    Italy   1942 -1946            </title>
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      <description>The above  company  was  what my father was  in during  WW2,but  despite  entering   his service number, as  per his  service book, no one  seems to record his number, or the 60  Special Company, despite me having some photos.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also some  bits and pieces  that seem to be  from the 2nd Light  sCOUT car, who again dont seem to be recorded in my fathers release book.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can anyone solve this mystery please, and advise where I  can  find out more abot the roles of these 2 sections&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thank you&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;john wells                     </description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-24 16:06:35Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: 60  Special  Company  ,Royal  Engineers    Italy   1942 -1946                     re</title>
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      <description>Thank you for  your reply, but why  do Ancestry say   WW2  on their advertising postings for  this website,when they ask for the  subscription.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John  </description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-24 13:22:15Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: 60  Special  Company  ,Royal  Engineers    Italy   1942 -1946                     re</title>
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      <description>Records for WW2 are not in the public domain but still with the MOD.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-24 10:43:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: william adolphus RAMSAY a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners</title>
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      <description>Thanks, Chirton is in North Shields, my uncle and aunt live there at the moment.&lt;br&gt;That would fit with my Grandfather's ferry trips to North Shields.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-20 10:19:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: william adolphus RAMSAY a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners</title>
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      <description>Alans granddad was John William Drummond Ramsay and he married his mothers domestic Edith May Deans against the family wishes but it appears she was pregnant. William and Rebecca lived in Chirton, South Shields.&lt;br&gt;I can't remember all the facts now as my lap top was broken while we were away last Nov, i am hoping to get my family tree up and running soon.&lt;br&gt;It is great to read your information &lt;br&gt;Thanks Barbara.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-19 20:05:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: william adolphus RAMSAY a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners</title>
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      <description>Yes was looking up William, son of William, no Sheriff's Officers there. One family as from the Gorbals, all the usual Ramsay names in the family, so you never know, could be poetic licence. Biddy became Bridget, Kate became Cathrine and Harry , think it was Harvey , on 1861 Census. Depended on whoever talked to the enumerator!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My Grandfather's brothers used to visit 28, Cronadll Street, South Shields, when I was a child, never quite figured out who was who, they all were peas in a pod. Do remember one lived north of the river, thought it was Cramlington, that was probably William. Seppie was a great one for visiting all his brothers, nephews and nieces. He really liked people and I loved him to death!!!!&lt;br&gt;BUT my grandmother was a formidable woman, never really got to the bottom of why some family members were excluded from my wedding!!! Should have asked why , but my mother and father's reaction was that, 'I was too damn nosey for my own good'&lt;br&gt;May find out some day. &lt;br&gt;Have you been in touch with someone called Norwood from Australia? they were going to Kew on a visit  here a few years ago, but haven't heard from them.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-19 10:42:11Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: william adolphus RAMSAY a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners</title>
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      <description>Hi Gloria like you i have contacted Kew and had the same advice, i notice that too on his marriage certificate but i thought it stated that his father was William and he was a sherrif. My husband Alan is a direct descendant of William born 1879 ( Septimus was his younger brother )I was sent a photograph of Harry but the lady said she was sure it was correct she was a descendant of Kate born 1874 ( Their older&lt;br&gt;sister ).&lt;br&gt;As you say very interesting stuff please let me know if you find anything else out&lt;br&gt;All the best Barbara.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-19 08:28:43Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: william adolphus RAMSAY a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners</title>
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      <description>I got an original cert from GRO, it is William Adolph then space then what looks like 'and' Biddy etc etc. It is in cursive handwriting and the 'us' would be linked to Adolph. I only noticed that when I was looking again for clues on all the certificates I have. Biddy registered the baby so wonder where she got second name from!!! No Adolphs anywhere. Not used on his marriage certificate or on his daughter Kate's birth certificate, etc. It is a mystery. Must try to get to Kew to look at Sappers records, they are not available any other way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now that the Scottish records are online I can only find 4 families on 1841 Census with a William father and son combo of the correct ages. 3 families are involved in weaving trade, which is what the families around Wakefield and Huddersfield were doing, so wondered if there was a connection.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father remembered his grandfather Harry, I asked what he was like, 'nasty little man', was all he would say. He had obviously upset my father !!!! Wish I had asked more when my Grandfather Sep was alive. Interesting stuff. Gloria</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-18 16:46:50Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Thank you for your reply, Harry Ramsay is my husbands great great maternal grandfather i too have his birth certificate but mine states his fathers name as William Adolphus Ramsay. I too have drawn a blank with William Adolphus i even tried the Scotish records.&lt;br&gt;Kind regards&lt;br&gt;Barbara.</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-18 09:11:20Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I have copy of original the birth certificate for Harry Ramsay, his son and my Great Grandfather, it states his name as Adolph, so he is son of William Adolph and Biddy Ramsay, late Thomas, formerly Roach. Have had no luck tracing him, no one called Adiolph on records in England or Scotland, that I can find.Gloria</description>
      <pubDate>2013-02-16 17:53:46Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Henry CHRISTIAN service record, 5th Company Royal Engineers</title>
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      <description>Is it possible to find a service record/army papers for my great grandfather Henry Christian, 5th Company Royal Engineers.  I believe he enlisted in 1875. Regimental no. 13232. (Born Rathdrum, Co. Wicklow, Ireland 1853)</description>
      <pubDate>2013-01-21 13:46:04Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Captain Thomas HOGAN, in the Royal Engineers during WWI, awarded MBE</title>
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      <description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm researching an ancestor, Thomas Hogan, who was a captain in the Royal Engineers during WWI, starting with little information (but a fine photograph of him in uniform that I'll be getting scanned and cleaned up). I've ordered his wedding certificate and eventually hope to track down his birth and death, but for now the most information is from the London Gazette and I was hoping for a bit of help interpreting it:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-&lt;br&gt;Capt. Thomas Hogan, M.B.E., ret. pay, to be Capt. 30th June 1923, with seniority 1st Dec. 1917.&lt;br&gt;--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/32853/pages/5557/page.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/32853/pages/5557/page...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now this seems to be a record of, as the official wording goes, his having "attained the age limit of liability to recall" - he was too old to be called back? Presumably was "ret. pay" refers to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does this mean he was in the RE from 1917 to 1923 or is that how long he was a captain?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also he appears to have been awarded an MBE (for gallantry?), but there doesn't appear to be a specific registry of of MBEs but there are the medal rolls.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is almost definitely the record of his medal roll (in a 1918 birth certificate he is listed as "Lieutenant acting Captain Royal Engineers"):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2907002" target="_blank"&gt;http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?ur...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, there are a number of other results for Thomas Hogan Royal Engineer, usually listed as Sapper. Could some of them also be him or is each record for a single individual?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We'll take a trip to Kew to dig out more information at some point but it is always a good idea to make sure you know what you are after before going.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once I get the death certificate, I assume we can then order up his service records from the MOD or are there problems there? On the National Archives it says the "majority of the personnel records for the First World War have been destroyed or damaged" so is it even worth it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#making-a-request-for-information-held-on-the-personal-records-of-deceased-service-personal-and-home-guard-records" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defe...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-12-18 17:55:57Z</pubDate>
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      <description>The fact he was not awarded the 1914-1915 Star and the lack of anything written against theatre of war (theatre code or date) means he served in the France/Flanders Theatre sometime after 1 Jan 1916. Add, if he was employed in the mining industry he could have had his call-up delayed and that his first regiment wasn’t his local one, points to him being conscripted later rather than in the earliest groups, so that earliest date for serving in France moves towards the later part of 1916. &lt;br&gt;The fact The York &amp;amp; Lancaster Regiment shows on his Medal Index Card means he must have been transferred to the RE after landing in France. Unfortunately, without his service record it is not possible to identify which battalion of the Y&amp;amp;L Regiment he initially served with.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After the battle of Somme 1 July 1916, the war descended into stalemate and that’s when the “battle” moved underground resulting in the greater need for more men with mining experience. As I mentioned earlier, he probably served in a tunnelling company, but again it may not be identified on the RE’s Medal Roll and without his record that cannot be confirmed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The medal roll is now in the National Archives, Kew in piece number:&lt;br&gt;WO 329/500 Royal Engineers other ranks: medal rolls RE/101B214; RE/101B215. Pages 52629-52929. British War Medal and Victory Medal.&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-07 20:00:14Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm afraid I have no idea when he enlisted and it doesn't say on the medal card - but then, I don't understand how to decipher the roll No. etc .  I don't know if that gives any clues.  I'm attaching the card.  I know it's him as I have one of the medals.&lt;br&gt;Having spoken to the daughter of one of his friends, I understand he wasn't in the same regiment as them, even though they went to enlist at the same time.&lt;br&gt;Thank you</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-05 05:20:23Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I don’t have access to the actual MIC so see what medals he was awarded and when he entered a theatre of war, but if he didn’t enlist before 1 Jan 1916, he wouldn’t have had a choice in the regiment he joined.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Initially at least, if he was working as a miner, (below ground worker in coal or all positions in copper, lead, Iron etc.,) he would have been a “starred man”, i.e. if of military age attested into the Army Reserve but would not be called unless it was deemed to be in the national interest. Although they would have been exempt many former miners did enlist before conscription began in 1916.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing is almost certain, when he transferred to the RE, having experience in underground mines, it would have been into a Tunnelling Company. The war underground wasn’t just tunnelling under the enemy trenches to create massive explosive mines, but also fighting enemy troops underground.&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-04 21:07:46Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Yes, we have found him in the 1911, but it is slightly misleading as it lists him as a ‘General Labourer’.  He was in fact one of the last to work at the Parys Mountain copper mine.  I’m told he also joined his father down in Aberdare for a while – probably to work as a miner.  I have no idea how he ended up enlisting in the York and Lancs! </description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-04 18:48:31Z</pubDate>
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      <description>You may find this explanation of what the RE's did in the War &lt;a href="http://www.1914-1918.net/cre.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.1914-1918.net/cre.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also although many sappers were labourers, sometimes men who changed from an infantry regiment to the RE's had some useful skill, albeit as labourer within a particular industry, that came from their civilian employment, so you may be able to at least get some background from the about web pages - Have you found him in the 1911 census?</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-03 21:08:15Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Thank you for your detailed and informative reply for which we are very grateful.  We have suspected for a while that we many never find out what happened to Jack during the war, and as he declined to talk about his experiences, there is no one else we can ask.  I have photos of him when he enlisted as a fresh faced handsome young man, but just over a year later, the photos depict a haggard and worn old man who appears at least 15 years older than his actual age.&lt;br&gt;We know he fell in love with a German girl – whom he mentioned once, and that she was killed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have inherited a pendant, given to him by someone who nursed him when he was injured.  It has a cross on the front and the Lord’s Prayer in extremely small writing on the back. Apart from his medals, this is the only war ‘record’ we have for him.&lt;br&gt;We are quite saddened to hear that we have probably reached a dead end but, as I said, are grateful to you taking the time to explain this to us.&lt;br&gt;With thanks&lt;br&gt;The Davies family&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-03 20:52:19Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Help in finding a Royal Engineers service record</title>
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      <description>Davies, John R&lt;br&gt;		&lt;br&gt;Corps: York and Lancaster Regiment; Regiment No: 35269; Rank: Private&lt;br&gt;Corps: Royal Engineers; Regiment No: 8757; Rank: Sapper&lt;br&gt;Corps: Royal Engineers; Regiment No: 398757; Rank: Sapper&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have found nothing on Ancestry in either British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 or British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 using any of the above numbers and regiments, there is nowhere else to look for any records for him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Usually a 6-digit number following on from a 4 or 5-digit one with the same regiment, points to a Territorial Force soldier who had been given a new number when the whole of the TF was renumbered early in 1917. However, in the case of the RE, their “new” 6-digit TF numbers started from 400000, and any numbers before that one were for men who had been treated as regular soldiers when it came to new 6-digit allocations. Unfortunately, unlike the TF numbers above 400000, where there is a link of RE units to number blocks, there doesn’t appear to be any online information linking RE “regular” numbers to units. I personally don’t believe there is a link but would be most pleased to proved wrong, as it would help a great many people. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It’s a similar story with the actual medal rolls that are only available at the National Archives, Kew.&lt;br&gt;For infantry regiments looking at the actual rolls can identify at least the last battalion of a regiment a soldier served with, but it cannot identify all the battalions the soldier may have served with. &lt;br&gt;For larger Corps, like the Royal Army Service Corps, Royal Army Medical Corps or Royal Engineers the medal rolls rarely give a man’s sub unit so may not be worth the expense of checking the entries for John Davies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A page from a medal roll can be obtained for as little as £5 per page or £7.50p without the roll reference; for a the name of a researcher that offers that fixed price package use your web browser to search for “military research on line” or go to the NA’s web site at &lt;a href="http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/&lt;/a&gt; &amp;gt; Records &amp;gt; scroll down to Paying for research &lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-03 20:39:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: John Patrick ASTLE b. 1920,   a Driver in the Royal Engineers</title>
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      <description>His records are still with the MoD. If he still alive he can apply for his own records or if he has died but you Mother in Law is still alive she can apply for free, otherwise it’s £30 fee and 6mth wait.&lt;br&gt;Whoever applies request his full record and medal entitlement.&lt;br&gt;See &lt;a href="http://www.veterans-uk.info/recordsmedalsbadges.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.veterans-uk.info/recordsmedalsbadges.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-03 02:34:38Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I am trying to find the Army records for my Father in law John Patrick Astle born 16th Feb 1920 he was a Driver in the Royal Engineers his Army No was 2013032, his Unit was 88 Mech Eqpt Platoon RE,he enlisted at Aorden on 2-5-1940,he was transfered to the army reserve on 27th Aug 1946.I would like to find out where he served during the war and if he was awarded any medals. </description>
      <pubDate>2012-10-02 12:21:57Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi&lt;br&gt;I wonder if anyone can give me some advice please?  For some time now, I’ve been searching without luck for the service records of John Richard Davies, B:1889 in Llanberis, Caernarvonshire, Wales.  I can’t seem to find him anywhere, but I know that he had a very rough time of it and that he was a Royal Engineer, but that’s about it.  When he enlisted, he lived outside Amlwch on Anglesey.  Is there anywhere else I can look for his records?  &lt;br&gt;John R Davies&lt;br&gt;Regiment or Corps:	York and Lancaster Regiment, Royal Engineers, Royal Engineers&lt;br&gt;Regimental Number:	35269, 8757, 398757&lt;br&gt;Any advice would be much appreciated.&lt;br&gt;Many thanks</description>
      <pubDate>2012-09-21 12:44:12Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Captain Frederick William MANTLE (1884-1942) with the Royal Engineers</title>
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      <description>I am writing a biographical note on Captain Mantle's career in New Guinea sfter being discharged from the Army.&lt;br&gt;Mantle was a junior officer of the P &amp;amp; O Company 1906-1916, resigning with the rank of Chief Officer and holding a Master Mariners certificate.   He then joined the Army as a Lieutenant with the Royal Engineers  ??? DATE .  In 1917 he was Officer Commanding munition convoys between England and France.  During 1918-1919 he was Port Officer at Naramar (Basra Mesopotamia) River Survey and Buoyage Service on the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. In 1919 Mantle was Embarkation Staff Captain at Amara. Regarded by the Royal Engineers as a ‘capable, energetic and reliable officer’, Captain Mantle ‘performed excellent service’ during the 1920 ‘Great Iraqi Revolution when he was acting DAD [WHAT IS THIS TITLE ????], Lower Euphrates. He was discharged WHEN ????&lt;br&gt;Mantle died as a POW when a US submarine sunk the Japanese ship Montevideo Maru on 1 July 1942.&lt;br&gt;I would appreciate any help that members may be able to give me to answer my three queries.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks</description>
      <pubDate>2012-07-20 16:33:02Z</pubDate>
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      <title>william adolphus RAMSAY a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners</title>
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      <description>Hi&lt;br&gt;Does anyone have any information on William adolphus Ramsay on the 1851 census he is in Ripon Yorkshire with his wife Biddy (nee Roach)it states he is a corporal in The Royal Sappers and Miners. Biddy then appears on the 1861 census remarried living in Durham with her new husband (Speedy) and son Harry Ramsay.I think he may have served in the Crimean War &lt;br&gt;Hopefully Barbara</description>
      <pubDate>2012-04-23 13:01:59Z</pubDate>
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      <title>WWI military records for Cecil Bert COOPER, Royal Engineer, b. 1885, Norfolk</title>
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      <description>My maternal grandfather, Cecil Bert Cooper, born 28 Jul 1885 in Heigham parish, Norfolk, England, UK, took part in WWI, according to the following quotation:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;"In the meantime the clouds of war were looming over Europe, and in early August of 1914, war was declared between Germany and the European Allies. Of course in those days there was no worldwide Radio service, and it was not immediately known in South Africa. As soon as it was, the Government declared in line with the other Dominion governments. It was obvious that the real action was going to be in Europe, so Dad resigned his job in Johburg, went down to Capetown, and got a berth on the first ship he could, sailing for England. On arrival he joined the Royal Engineers as a Sapper. After an initial period of military training he was sent to the Western Front in France. He was to spend the next four years, except for short breaks of leave in Blighty, in the dreadful conditions of the trenches. By late 1916 he had been gassed twice, and been awarded the Military Medal for bravery in the face of the enemy. In 1917 he was commissioned in the field as a subaltern in the Royal Engineers."&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can anyone suggest where I can obtain records of his service and awards while fighting in France?</description>
      <pubDate>2012-01-03 13:49:15Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Sergeant Chas PIKE of The Royal Engineers</title>
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      <description>Try asking on the family name Pike forum.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.pike/mb.ashx" target="_blank"&gt;http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.pike/mb.ashx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pretty sure there will be someone who would appriciate it.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-01-02 19:10:55Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Many thanks, do you know if one of the Sergeant Pikes was in the 75th Field Coy.&lt;br&gt;I thought if someone was doing his family tree, they might like a copy of the letter.&lt;br&gt;At least he survived, thanks for your help.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-01-02 09:38:32Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Looks like there were 2 Charles Pikes that served with the RE during WWI.&lt;br&gt;Both seem to have survived.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-01-01 11:47:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: WWI military records for Cecil Bert Cooper</title>
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      <description>Surviving Service records, Pension records and Medal Index Cards you can find on Ancestry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A quick look and I saw a medal card for a Cecil B Cooper (could be him, maybe man by that name) &lt;br&gt;RCA, Gunner, service no 462 and 314211. Victoria an 15 Star Medal. Theatre of War France, entry therein 1915.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Loes&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-12 01:14:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Pictures required of uniform and sod battery please?</title>
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      <description>Thank you I,ll try them next.&lt;br&gt;Sue&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-07 20:26:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Pictures required of Royal Engineeers uniform and sod battery please?</title>
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      <description>Hello,&lt;br&gt;Hoping someone might be able to advise me.&lt;br&gt;I'm presently writing about the building of the Nothe Fort at Weymouth 1859-1870.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was trying to trace some pictures that I might be able to use to illustrate the pages, so they need to be ones that I have a chance of obtaining copyright to publish them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fistly, the uniform of the Royal engineers in that era, and secondly, a diagram or picture of a sod battery which they were at first building (though it later became a stone built fort.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many thanks,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sue hogben</description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-07 13:58:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Pictures required of uniform and sod battery please?</title>
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      <description>Have you tried the National Army Museum? see &lt;a href="http://www.nam.ac.uk/research/research-enquiries" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.nam.ac.uk/research/research-enquiries&lt;/a&gt; </description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-07 13:03:22Z</pubDate>
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      <description>He-lo Jeff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your reply.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately I have done things a bit topsy turvy!.......We visited the museum about a month ago, to find some pictures that I thought might be there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have since discovered a lot more information about the fort, but another visit to the museum won't be on the cards for ages as by the time we'd driven there distance wise, paid for accommodation etc.....it cost a fair amount for the visit.So I'm not sure that hubby would permit us to go again for a while.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to contact them to get written permission to be able to use the photos I'd obtained while there, so might just ask them if they had anything I would be able to use. But last time when I'd contacted them via e-mail, they said I had to visit in person, and as they seemed to very short on staff there, this is probably why.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sue</description>
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      <title>Re: Pictures required of uniform and sod battery please?</title>
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      <description>RE Museum &lt;a href="http://www.re-museum.co.uk/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.re-museum.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-07 00:22:43Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Royal Engineers - Service record of Albert Pelham BAKER</title>
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      <description>Can anybody help, I'm searching for the service record/retirement details of my g-uncle Albert Pelham Baker - Sergeant Instructor Royal Engineers, 1890's possibly. </description>
      <pubDate>2011-10-31 12:56:22Z</pubDate>
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      <title>William Ambrose BROWN/BROWNE,  Corporal RE,  Dublin 1877</title>
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      <description>Trying to find out more about William Ambrose (or possibly Ambrose William). In 1877 his son George was baptised (Royal Hibernian parish?)in Dublin. (I can't find evidence of WA's  marriage to Elizabeth Louise, it may have been Dublin/Ireland or England&lt;br&gt;This William Ambrose may be a son of my ggg grandfather George Brown/Browne who retired from RE (Dublin) in 1865, &amp;amp; may also be the same as an Ambrose William Brown born in Datford Kent in 1848 (this birth record not yet checked out)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not sure of the best way to check any possible service history (without possibily spending pots of money on researchers&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any info/suggestions welcomed&lt;br&gt;Roz</description>
      <pubDate>2011-10-31 12:55:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Sergeant Chas PIKE of The Royal Engineers</title>
      <link>http://boards.ancestry.ca/topics.Military.uk.engineer/7/mb.ashx</link>
      <description>Sergeant Chas Pike of The Royal Engineers wrote a letter to my Grandmother, describing the death and burial of her brother Sapper William Holton, in World War 1.&lt;br&gt;It was such a thoughtful letter, I would just like to know what happened to him, and whether he survived the war.</description>
      <pubDate>2011-10-31 12:54:31Z</pubDate>
      <author>keithJohnson519</author>
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