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de la Cerda

Posted: 7 Aug 2001 5:40AM GMT
Edited: 28 Jul 2002 11:39PM GMT
Surnames: Mast, Haltom, Procella, Martines, de la Cerda, Flores
Hi Everyone!

I am trying to research my de la Cerda ancestors and know very little about them. What I know is:

Nepomuceno de la Cerda, born between 1749-1751 in Los Adaes, Texas when Texas was still a province of Mexico. Los Adaes, according to a map located in Ralph Steen Library, Stephen F. Austin University, Nacogdoches, TX, is now in Louisiana near Natchitoches, Louisiana and was a Spanish Mission at that time.
He married Maria Celedine Flores who was born Bet. 1759 - 1766 in Los Adaes, TX, also. They had a daughter named Manuela de la Cerda born Bet. 1782 - 1788 in Nuestra Senora del Pilar de Nacogdoches, TX, simply known as Nacogdoches, Nacogdoches County, Texas today. Manuela de la Cerda married Jose Maria Procella presumably in Nacogdoches, TX. They had the following known children:

Jose de Jesus Procella - my ancestor who married Mary Martina Martines
Maria Telesfara Procella
Jose de Policarpio Procella
Maria Vicenta Procella
Maria del Pilar Procella
Jose de Antonio Procella

Does anyone out there connect with my de la Cerda ancestors?

Pat
cgburges@txucom.net

Re: de la Cerda

Juan Carlos De La Cerda (View posts)
Posted: 18 Jan 2002 4:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Well, I don't know for sure, but the last name is suposed to be from Spain, also there are some De La Cerda's in France, my father's family are all blond and have blue or green eyes, the are (as far back as my grandfather) from Monterrey, Mexico and some migrated to central Mexico, there are also some in the nother states of Mexico and Texas, Louisiana, New Mexico and Alabama that are supposed to be relative of mine but know next to nothing about them.

Re: de la Cerda

Posted: 20 Jan 2002 7:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jul 2002 11:39PM GMT
Juan Carlos,
Thanks for your reply to my query. I hope that we find a connection. I am at a standstill at this time on my de la Cerda line at this time.
Thanks,
Pat

P.S. My daughter dated a young man from Monterrey, Mexico and he was tall, thin, medium brown hair and green eyes. Their three-year-old daughter is fair, light brown hair and blue eyes.

Re: de la Cerda

Posted: 21 Feb 2004 3:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: de la Cerda
Nepomuceno de la Cerda was my great great great great great grandfather. He was born in 1752 in Los Adaes. He was a scout protecting Catholic priests from hostile Indians in the Louisiana/Texas area. His brother Francisco was also a scout and an Indian fighter. Nepomuceno is reportd dying at age 107 years old in 1858. Nepomuceno was also one of the 76 signers to petition to the King of Spain so the Spainards could go east to Louisiana , but they could go as far east as Nacodoches, Texas. Nepomuceno's father was probably Francisco de la Cerda who was a soldier , and was the Commander of a Texas fort near San Antonio.

Re: de la Cerda

Pat (View posts)
Posted: 21 Feb 2004 3:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, Corey, for that information. Nepomuceno de la Cerda was also my great great great great great grandfather. From which of his children do you descend?

There is some additional information on Nepomuceno de la Cerda at the East Texas Research Center located in Steen Library on the Stephen F. Austin University campus in Nacogdoches, Texas. I lost my husband last year and have not felt like focusing on my genealogy research for some time. I hope to extract what information there is on Nepomuceno some time this summer. What other lines are you researching?

Pat

Re: de la Cerda

Posted: 21 Feb 2004 6:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is the line of de la Cerdas I descended from:
Nepomuceno ggggg grandfather
Antonio de la Cerda , his only son.
James Santiogo de la Cerda
Edmundus de la Cerda
James Santiogo DeLacerda, my great grandpa, WWI soldier.
His brother Edgar was shot by Will Pruett in 1912 and his younger brother Freddie de la Cerda was a WWI soldier and was killed at a dance in 1926 by two men, one of the two men that killed him was hung in Nachitchoes, LA jail and the other one was shot by a Texas Ranger in Kilgore, TX.

James S. de la Cerda's daughter was Henretta G. de la Cerda my grandma she was a deaf mute and married my grandpa Gardner. I have found the Gardner family tree, but I am really trying to find info on John Joseph Gardner's occupation, my great great grandpa.

Re: de la Cerda

pat (View posts)
Posted: 22 Feb 2004 12:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: de la Cerda, Martines, Procella, Mast, Haltom
Corey,
Where did your de la Cerda ancestors live? Where did the Gardner's live?

When I last visited Steen Library at SFA, I found that there are a number of documents on both Nepomuceno de la Cerda and my Procella line. I did not have time to copy any of them. Many are quite old and have to be carefully handled. I believe there were land records for both. I believe that at one time, Santa Ana ordered everyone out of Nacogdoches and he ordered some of them to Bexar and some to Los Adaes. On one of the old censuses of Nacogdoches (Spanish rule), Nepomuceno indicated that he was Indio/Spanish. Do you have any idea which Indian group he would have descended from?

Where did you find your information on the de la Cerda's?

Re: de la Cerda

Posted: 22 Feb 2004 6:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: de la Cerda, Gardner
My de la Cerda ancestors lived in northen LA and southern TX. The Gardners are very spread out. They still have Gardners in Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas. I never knew that Nepomuceno de la Cerda had Indian in him. I thought he was full Spainish. I guess since he lived in Texas he would probably have Comanche or Kiowa or maybe Choctaw. I was told that my ancestor before Nepomuceno was a Spanish Conquistador on de Soto's expedition in the 1500s, he was from Toledo, Spain. I would not know the conquistador's first name though. I found most of my info from family and papers with the entire family on it. They had a document with my conquistador ancestor 's name on it, but it got lost I never saw it but my aunt did and she forgot his name.

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Pat (View posts)
Posted: 23 Feb 2004 1:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Corey,
When you say "family papers" what kind of family papers? Where did you find them and who has them now? Are any of them a matter of public record? Is it possible for me to get a copy of any of the records?

Pat

Re: de la Cerda

Posted: 23 Feb 2004 8:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: de la Cerda
Somebody made documents of the conquistadors name but I have no idea where you would find them and I don't know any de la Cerdas that are still living. Somebody I have no idea who made papers on the history of Nepomuceno de la Cerda and his descendants I saw the papers before but I don't know who would have any. I remember it said something about the University of Texas located in Austin so that's probably where they found the info. I wrote some of the info down but I could remember most of it. The only two de la Cerdas my dad knew were James Santiogo DeLacerda , WWI soldier, and Gene de la Cerda , James S. DeLacerda's nephew who fought in WWII and was badly wounded during the Korean War and would probably have a long military record because he was a soldier for 22 years, both are dead.You could also find info on Lacerda, TX named after Nepomuceno de la Cerda because he was granted 3 1/2 leagues of land in Nacodoches and his son was granted 11 leagues. near Marlin, TX, I think they were granted it by the King of Spain. Nepomuceno was also described as a very refined man, had a fine education, and beautiful handwriting. I think he was buried under the old courthouse in Nachodoches or somewhere. What line of de la Cerdas did you descend from? I might have heard there name before.
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